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67' Project car
Two years ago I bought a 67' fastback. The car was advertised as a rust free mustang project car and came as a roller with a 390ci and 4spd toploader trans (not installed). The body came with Branda 67' Shelby glass and looked very nice. The door handles and locks were shaved and came with Sun-X glass.
Long story short, the engine was bored out as far as it could go and the transmission was in terrible condition. Ended up trading the engine and trans for a complete 8.8" rear end and a complete drum brake 9" rear. The 9" came from a local technical school and actually has "zero" miles on it. The 8.8" is a locker with 3.73 gears. I am a fan of DOHC V8 Ford engines, finally located a 1998 Lincoln Mark VIII 4.6L DOHC engine with auto trans. My plans are to stroke the 4.6L to a 5.0L and install the "C" heads from an 03/04 Cobra with mild cams and a ProCharger. While the engine and trans issue turned out pretty good, I can't say the car was rust free. The previous owner had attempted to install the long floor pans, one subframe support and a half dozen sheet metal patches throughout the car. The metal work was all stitch welded and appeared to be solid but on closer inspection, it was weak and flexed very easy. This is when I noticed the use of some metallic putty that was sanded smooth and painted flat black. This led to me taking a rubber mallet to all repaired areas. I have since removed all of patches and installed a full floor pan, both subframe supports, passenger side torque box, smoothed firewall and drivers side toe board. During this time, I found a great deal of rust where the previous owner simply installed the new sheet metal directly over the old rusty metal. Last year I thought I had a great body shop to paint the car, but they chose to let my car sit around for 1.5years while I waited patiently. They managed to replace the cowl panel, weld up the vents (all vents front and back) and install a new tail light panel (original was carved up by the previous owner). So here it is in my garage. Though the body shop fiasco was a waste of time , I have since located another body man who I'm positive can do the job. The interior will be all leather with the 08' GT dash and seats. The headliner will be steel, painted black and there will eventually be a 10pt. chromoly roll bar. I did purchase a roof panel for the fastback which will be trimmed down and welded in place. Spray foam will separate the steel headliner and actual roof of the car. The suspension is a TCI Mustang II style with rack and pinion and IDIDIT tilt column and the rear is a TCI with torque arm. Coil overs on all four corners. The front end went together quickly and it looks great. Last week a dash from an 08' Mustang GT was mocked up. It had to be trimmed down a lot but I think it will look good. The Old Air AC system and Kugel Components lateral master cylinder mount will go in nicely behind the dash. Even the windshield wipers fit nicely. Just tonight the 9" was prepped for installation. The TCI rear suspension kit has a lot of brackets and hardware. Two brackets require each of the bearing ends to be removed then welding. Tomorrow, I hope to align the rear end with the body and tack weld the brackets in place. Perhaps next week I'll get to take the rear end to a local hot rod shop to be narrowed. While thats being done, I'll mini-tub the rear and make a few repairs, found some rust and thin spots in each wheel well. ![]() ![]() Metallic putty use with sheet metal over the rust.. ![]() ![]() TCI front end with Wilwood 6 piston ![]() TCI rear end set up ![]() ![]() ![]() There is something to be said about original sheet metal. Managed to locate a set of solid front fenders and "yes" they are much different than the taiwan sheet metal. The two largest differences, the area that meets at the base of the windshield goes up too far and the crease on the side of each front fender panel is "duller" and does not come out as far when compared to the originals. IMHO, the taiwan sheet metal takes away from the original looks of the car. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Man, I need a new job. Every time someone posts a thread like this, I realize that I want a huge piece of land, with a 6+ car pole barn, a Dynacorn Camaro (that I would make into a Firebird) and Mustang body sitting side-by-side being put together from scratch, a Fox body, my 95, etc. This is going to be a beautiful car when it's finished. Got any ideas on a color yet? I love how you're using the new dash. I searched all over for measurements on them once, and realized it'd be too wide for a swap into a Fox that I was thinking about buying.
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70mm throttle body | SCT BA-2400 MAF | Siemens 60lb. injectors | Dual 255lph fuel pumps TwEECer RT | MAC off road X-pipe | Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers Cobra front brakes | 2000 Cobra R wheels | 96-98 export taillights |
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I agree! The blacked out look with shelby tail lights looks odd.
My project has studs welded to the inside of the tail light panel. This will allow for surface mounted stock 67' Mustang tail lamps with no chrome bezels. Ever heard of "one-piece windows"? In 1969, Ford stopped producing Mustangs with the wing windows. One piece windows plays on the 1969 door glass and deletes the wing windows. This is a subtle modification that allows installation of the door mirrors to be placed some five inches forward. This sounds like it means little but when mocked up and from the side-view, the whole pillar/ wing window area look is changed significantly. One Piece Products - Window Conversion Kits for Classic Cars and Trucks! |
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I didn't even catch that those were shelby tails in that, probably another reason it looked weird to me.
Those one piece windows look slick, are you going to do that with yours? I think the only thing that would hold be back is, to me, it looks like you would have to cut out the wing window and if you ever wanted to restore it you might have trouble finding that, or does the kit come with the door to? That car in the fist pic is bad ass, ive been thinking about a new toy but was looking away from mustangs but that car would keep me close to home, so to speak. |
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I look forward to seeing the progress, as you work on the car. For inspiration, I gave you a new avatar.
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Matt 1995 Mustang GT Mustang's Mods Vortech V2SQ | TFS Twisted Wedge heads | TFS 51402000 (stage 1) cam | Typhoon intake
70mm throttle body | SCT BA-2400 MAF | Siemens 60lb. injectors | Dual 255lph fuel pumps TwEECer RT | MAC off road X-pipe | Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers Cobra front brakes | 2000 Cobra R wheels | 96-98 export taillights |
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09 August 2011
This project continues in the "mock up" portion of the rebuild. I have received a new engine. The previous one was for a FWD. Took a pic of the new arrival to my garage.. The 1998 Lincoln Mark VIII 4.6 DOHC engine is one of those desirable engines by most Ford car builders and hot rodders. Ford used the Tekskid block manufactured in Italy at a foundry owned by Fiat. Ya, I know..
Anyhow, this engine is much lighter than the Cobra motor and the block (once its built), can handle as much HP as the 03/04 SVT Cobra block (I own one of those cars to). The difference is.. The Tekskid block is some 60-80lbs lighter. Most guys build the Tekskid block with the "C" heads or some Cobra heads off a donor engine. ![]() ![]() Most of last weekend and this week has been about making the car a roller again. Seems both my welders ran out of shielding gas and I went through a lot of cut off and grinding wheels. One thing after another lately.. Not to mention the hot temps in the garage. ![]() Here's a few pics of the suspension, bracing and the torque arm. TCI really did their homework and I broke four drill bits! ![]() ![]() The torque arm (heavy) ![]() This is a panhard bar bracket (passenger side). I'm missing a bracket so finishing the installation had to stop for now. I have to order a few parts from TCI to replace the lost bracket that is supposed to be installed on the drivers side adjacent to the bracket pictured below. ![]() ![]() This picture shows the re-enforcement plate bolted to the top side of the frame support. There is one on each side and smaller ones on the rear frame supports. ![]() One of my pet-peeeeevvvvsssszzzz is rust. Found small amounts in the rear of the car so it was all cut out. One issue were the remaining patch panels from the previous owner. The patch panels were placed over the rusted areas that should have been cut out first. Instead the previous owner installed the panels over some putty that was placed on top of the rusted areas. OMG! The pics show some of what I found when pulling off the patch panels. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Wow, clearly the previous owner had no idea how to do body work. Good thing you're finding and fixing it now.
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Matt 1995 Mustang GT Mustang's Mods Vortech V2SQ | TFS Twisted Wedge heads | TFS 51402000 (stage 1) cam | Typhoon intake
70mm throttle body | SCT BA-2400 MAF | Siemens 60lb. injectors | Dual 255lph fuel pumps TwEECer RT | MAC off road X-pipe | Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers Cobra front brakes | 2000 Cobra R wheels | 96-98 export taillights |
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Hahah.. Not my boot print!
edit: Dropped the rear end off to be narrowed and brackets TIG welded on. Can't wait to get it back. I'm itching to get this thing back on the ground again. Last edited by SVTnSD; 08-10-2011 at 09:02 PM. |
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I'm picking up the rear end this afternoon. Hopefully its done and the workmanship is there..
While the rear end was out for service the focus turned to completing the front end of the car. I filled all the holes, completed the firewall installation, removed a lot of unnecessary brackets, deleted the side marker lamp holes on the front fenders (67' model did not have them) and ground down all the weld areas. The car is also ready for the steel headliner to be installed. I hope to tackle that by the end of the week. The 67' Shelby facia had a bunch of holes in it for bumper brackets and the stock marker/blinker lights. All the holes were filled and all that remains is to sand them down. ![]() The front end completion is now getting fun again. The steering column and master cylinder must be installed about the same time. Before that can be done the 08' GT dash has to be installed to ensure the steering column is centered on the dash opening. The column end will protrude through the firewall just a few inches. The actual install of all that will be covered in the next post here. The IDIDIT brand tilt column is high quality stuff. ![]() ![]() The Kugel Components lateral master cylinder bracket is a nice product, I wish they would make a compact one for early Mustangs. This one is bulky, on the other hand I can stand on the pedal and it won't flex and its completely rebuildable. ![]() ![]() The firewall, where it meets the transmission is done after grinding the welds. ![]() The stock battery tray panel was removed. Like all classic Mustangs, this area rusted badly from battery acid removing paint and primer under the tray. A friend is going to make a panel that matches the non-battery side. The actual battery will be installed in the trunk. ![]() For anyone who has had to fill a lot of holes with weld, oh happy day.. The panel looks way better..
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I can't wait to see it looking like your avatar.
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70mm throttle body | SCT BA-2400 MAF | Siemens 60lb. injectors | Dual 255lph fuel pumps TwEECer RT | MAC off road X-pipe | Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers Cobra front brakes | 2000 Cobra R wheels | 96-98 export taillights |
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me to.. at this point I just want to get the car to the body shop in good shape
The last of the parts arrived just today. The rear end was finally finished yesterday and now sits under the car. I'm going to clean up the housing after the mock up is done (to make sure the brackets were welded on correctly). Pics later tonight.. |
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Hey, hey, hey, where's the pics?
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Matt 1995 Mustang GT Mustang's Mods Vortech V2SQ | TFS Twisted Wedge heads | TFS 51402000 (stage 1) cam | Typhoon intake
70mm throttle body | SCT BA-2400 MAF | Siemens 60lb. injectors | Dual 255lph fuel pumps TwEECer RT | MAC off road X-pipe | Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers Cobra front brakes | 2000 Cobra R wheels | 96-98 export taillights |
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